Relocate to Wisconsin : "You Not Licensed Electricity"

"You Not Licensed Electricity"

The importance of a home inspection by a licensed inspector with a sterling reputation....ahhhhh priceless !

Via Jay Markanich (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC):

I get a lot of interesting phone calls, some with valid questions that need explanations.  This particular call was interesting to say the least, but with a different intent.  This call was from the listing agent of a property I inspected a few days ago.  The purpose of her call was to try to get out of making a repair asked for by my clients.  I could hardly understand her, but it went like this:

"Jay, I Mumbledeefum, and I listing agent at (address).  You licensed electricity?"  I think I understood the last part.

I am a licensed home inspector.  I am not a licensed electrician.  Why do you ask?

"You say too low voltage in basement of listing.  Report say less than 100 volts on basement circuit (she is reading slowly).  How you know that?"

I have a device to check that.  It is a little computer.  (I check the electricity in outlets with a device that simulates an 80% load on a circuit.  I can set it to check 15 or 20amp circuits.  It puts a load on the line to see how the outlet, and circuit, responds.  It checks for 6 different things, including voltage.  It only goes down to a setting that says "< 100" which is too low.  For all I know this circuit was producing 46 volts!) The circuit should produce 120 volts or near to that.  Your basement did not.  For all I know it is only producing 50 volts.

"I never hear of computer.  I call inspector who never hear of computer.  He say all inspector need check is polarity.  He say you need be licensed electricity to check for more.  He check only polarity.  You should not do more."

Ma'am, I don't know who you are speaking with, if anybody, but I can and do check for more than polarity.  Just checking for polarity does not give much information.  And my association's Standard Operating Procedures do not say that all an inspector should check for is polarity.  And I can exceed the SOP at any time.  So, the inspector you use just checks for polarity?  That can be done with a $5 detector bought at any hardware store.  He needs better equipment.  You need a better home inspector.  (Yes, that was an intentional slam...)

She's silent but undaunted and moves on.  "You report has dark color for some thing, not dark other thing.  Voltage low not dark, so no problem.  We will ignore this."

My report has lethal, dangerous, things that affect long-term habitability and such in bold.  Low voltage, while a problem, is not in bold.  It is easily diagnosed and repaired by an electrician.  But it is still a problem!  I now realize that the purpose of the call is to try to find a reason to get out of having to make a requested repair.

I didn't need a crystal ball to see that!

Low voltage is a problem that usually indicates improper or defective materials or unprofessional work.  I remember that my report also suggests that my clients ask for the remodeling permit and final occupancy permit for that work.  I think you are trying to find a reason not to fix this.  Does your client have the permits they can give to my clients for that basement?  Was the basement finished by a licensed electricity?

"You not licensed electricity.  That is why I call you.  Good bye."

She thinks she has reason to get her clients out of making a repair.  So she hung up!  Unbelievable!

My recommendation:  It is best to find out why something should be done rather than what ways can be used to get out of doing something identified on a home inspection report or requested by a buyer.  Call the inspector!

 

Sally K. & David L. Hanson, ABR, CDPE, CSS, e-Pro,ILHM, REDS

 

Comments

That agent is almost as dangerous as the problems on the inspection report.  Shame, Shame Shame! Note we put that name in BOLD as she is a problem that needs correction.   I sure hope the buyers agent sets the record straight. Great reblog Sally and Dave!

Posted by Dick & Dixie Sells Realtors Tampa Bay Florida Homes For Sale (Sells Real Estate, LLC) over 1 year ago

You kinda wish sometimes that there was "remediall realtor school" instead of continuing ed...hmmmm ?

Posted by Sally & David Hanson WI Realtors Luxury\Short Sale\CDPE\ABR\e-Pro\REDS (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) over 1 year ago

Sally, love the reblog, but I REALLY love your comment above!  Makes total sense to me!!

Posted by Kristin Johnston,Waukesha County Realtor Buyers Agent,Waukesha Cty WI Real Estate (Remax Realty Center 414-254-6647) over 1 year ago

In some states, inspectors are not licensed....there is enough of an issue with those with little experience...no license yicks !

Posted by Sally & David Hanson WI Realtors Luxury\Short Sale\CDPE\ABR\e-Pro\REDS (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) over 1 year ago

Doesn't it depend on what the definition of "is" is?

Posted by Jay Markanich - Northern VA Home Inspector (Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC) over 1 year ago

yup

Posted by Sally & David Hanson WI Realtors Luxury\Short Sale\CDPE\ABR\e-Pro\REDS (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) over 1 year ago

Home inspectors here don't check for anything other than loose outlets, loose connections, and polarity. Analysis of the electrical system is under the purview of electricians. Note that electricians are licensed in California while home inspectors are not. I think this is a good example why so many of us here keep writing to our legislators seeking licensing for home inspectors.

I would stay longer in your blog, but after going a week without being able to make any comments due to the proxy errors and such, I'm way behind now, almost five weeks behind. I'll be back, as our Governator likes to say.

Posted by Jim Frimmer, Realtor and CDPE, Mission Valley, CA DRE #01458572 (Century 21 Award) over 1 year ago

every state is unique...licensing for inspectors is a good thing !

Posted by Sally & David Hanson WI Realtors Luxury\Short Sale\CDPE\ABR\e-Pro\REDS (Keller Williams 414-525-0563) over 1 year ago

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